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Just logged into my internet banking and noticed there was a message.  Turns out that HSBC are stopping their cheque guarantee card scheme end of June.  Nobody is writing cheques that need guaranteeing any more.

Back when I started university in 1970, I remember my father taking me in to see the bank manager so I could open an account.  The manager recommended that the account be based at the university branch in Leeds.  So, when I was at uni, whenever I needed money I could just go across the road and cash a cheque there.  (And, unlike some students, I usually managed to keep money in my account till the end of term.)  I'm sure I occasionally wrote cheques for things like text books, but I can't remember how they were guaranteed.  Perhaps they accepted my Student Union card.

When I graduated, I transferred by account to my home branch, but as I was getting a job in London, it was recommended that I receive a cheque guarantee card.  I well remember how cheque books had a calendar in the back, and whenever you cashed a cheque using the card, the cashier would poke a hole in the day's date on the calendar, to prevent you writing cheques all over London.  And I recall that the first few SF conventions I attended, I paid my hotel bill with a cheque guaranteed by the card.

But then came credit cards, and I no longer needed to write cheques for goods or hotel bills.  And then came ATMs.  (OK, I know the first ATM was installed in Enfield in north London in 1967.  Apparently the first person to use one was Reg Varney.  But I didn't get an ATM card till the late eighties.)  I haven't cashed a cheque for years, I pay bills by internet transfer, everyone can accept credit cards via PayPal.  It's only in my role as treasurer of the Science Fiction Foundation that I write most of my cheques these days.  OK, a cheque in the post is a good way to send birthday presents, but a cheque I wrote my nephew for his birthday last August, he still hasn't cashed.  When I saw him at Christmas, he admitted he never goes near a bank these days.

And my bank account was still held at my home town branch right up till the end of 2009.  I haven't lived in that town since 1973.  That branch has now closed, so they transferred my account to a nearby town, one in which I've never lived.

Date: 2011-04-13 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicarage.livejournal.com
I don't think Paypal is universal (I have an account, but never use it), so people-to-people cheques are common. Are SFF memberships cheque, direct debit or or one off visa debit?

I cash M&Ds bithday/Christmas cheques quickly, but write only a few a year, for cons and reunion meals.

My investments send me cheques

Date: 2011-04-13 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pauldormer.livejournal.com
Up till recently, SFF memberships seem to be primarily cheques and cash payments at cons, but last month we finally started taking memberships through PayPal - certainly more convenient for foreign members - and they've started to come in regularly now. (We just missed the last renewal cycle, but those people we had to send reminders to have taken advantage of it.)

You don't actually need a PayPal account to pay by PayPal, as I recall. Indeed, I just experimented with the SFF page. Pressing the pay button takes you to a PayPal login screen, but there is a "Don't have a PayPal account" option which allows you to pay via credit/debit card.

I have two PayPal accounts, one for the Foundation and a personal one. Always have to make sure I use the right one. :-)

I think most of my investments pay straight into my building society account, except for my Premium Bonds, which send me those things that look like cheques, but you have to sign them yourself, which always seems strange to me.

Date: 2011-04-13 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicarage.livejournal.com
BTW, you want to click on the reply link to thread the conversation

Date: 2011-04-14 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pauldormer.livejournal.com
That had been my intention. Obviously, I missed. :-)

Date: 2011-04-13 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pmcray.livejournal.com
>>> "Don't have a PayPal account" option which allows you to pay via credit/debit card

It doesn't let you do that if you do have a PayPal account. I do, but it is deactivated and as I don't have a landline, getting it reactivated involves physical letters. Extremely tedious and as put me off using PayPal. Which is a pity as I want to rejoin the SFF. Perhaps I should just give you a cheque next time I see you!

Date: 2011-04-13 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pauldormer.livejournal.com
Or Roger Robinson. We're have a table at Illustrious, if you're there.

But what happens if you select the "Don't have a PayPal account" option? I just tried it here, and I get a screen allowing me to enter credit card details. And, as I said, I have two PayPal accounts.

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